Old Fischer Pool Table Info

6/28/2018 4:04:21 PM

Old Fischer Pool Table Info

My dad got this old Fischer pool table when I was around 5 or 6 years old (1976-1977) from his uncle. Not sure of the exact year or model name.

Does anyone have any info on this Fischer pool table?

gchandkeh

Old Fischer Pool Table Info

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billiardsforum on 6/28/2018 4:27:58 PM
I am 99% sure it is a Fischer Cavalier pool table. Not sure which generation though (there were four or five) and thus, not sure of the year.

Lots of them come up for sale, usually asking around $500. Most don't sell for that much (not because they aren't good pool tables, but rather, because the market is flooded with used pool tables, and these Fischer pool tables have a style that is quite out-dated for today's homes).

Here is the Fischer Cavalier pool table brochure / catalog page. Your's isn't the EXACT one in the brochure (based on differences in the legs), so it's probably a later iteration e.g. Fischer Cavalier II or Fischer Cavalier III, etc.

gchandkeh on 6/28/2018 4:37:43 PM
Cool. Thanks for the info. First time I’ve ever seen the Fischer Cavalier brochure. I’m going to try and restore my dads as it will be in our basement. I grew up playing pool on it and now my kids play on it.

billiardsforum on 6/28/2018 7:49:22 PM
That's great! It's a solid, well-playing pool table. Nice to have the family history to go along with the project. Makes it all worth it.

Would love to see some project photos and definitely some "after" pics when you get it all done.

Good luck!

By the way I just found another, a Fischer Cavalier VII pool table, and this one has different legs from those on yours and from those on the brochure. This generation also has score-counters in the rails.

billiardsforum on 6/28/2018 8:28:08 PM
FYI - How weird is this. Another almost identical Fischer Cavalier pool table to yours just posted here looking for valuation. You might want to have a look.

ignifork22 on 8/25/2018 8:33:54 AM
I have a similar pool table with the same Fischer manufacturer's identification tag. Mine is a coin slot pool table. It has a one-piece slate base which the Edison Billiard Company, who moved the pool table for me, said it had a custom slate size. It is slightly thicker that a typical 3/4" piece. The head guy said it was the heaviest piece he had ever moved.

He told me they would have sold that pool table at $800 as-is, in their store in Edison, Ohio and with new bumpers (these are original), new felt cover, and a new or repaired side panel, it would have been priced at $1100.

He asked how much I paid for it. It was donated to the church my wife attends from an estate. I got it for free when people heard how much it would cost to move it ($350). They said it should have cost more to move it, but they didn't know it was so heavy. Four of us couldn't lift one corner.

He told me judging by the return mechanism it was as older table than he had seen before for a pay table.

My serial number is 59839. You just gotta love it, huh?

billiardsforum on 8/27/2018 4:22:50 PM
Great info, especially the part about the valuation and pricing you got from Edison Billiard Company.

Any chance you can post up a few photos of pool table?

hlthomas on 11/15/2018 12:49:30 PM
Can any of you tell me how easy it is to disassemble a Fischer table? I'm looking at buying one and trying to figure out if we can break it down enough to move it without hiring a company, because the miles to travel would add up and make it a little more spendy than we'd like. After looking at the table we couldn't tell if we could easily get the slate out to move the slate by itself. From the looking I've done online, it appears the table is the model Cavalier, just like these one. I can't find any disassembly videos for a Fischer, I'm guessing because they are so old, but wasn't sure if it was the same as other disassembly videos I've seen. So I have resorted to forums in hopes someone has disassembled one. Any insight you might have on this would be appreciated!

gchandkeh on 11/15/2018 3:00:01 PM
I can tell you if it has a one-piece slate, then just the slate alone is heavy as hell.

Hope you have a moving company or some strong friends. Good luck with the table.

hlthomas on 11/15/2018 3:12:07 PM
Haha, yeah it is. We are aware that the pool table weighs between 650 lbs and 800 lbs, so we are prepared for that.

We just aren't sure if the getting to the slate is easy or not.

ignifork22 on 11/16/2018 6:23:38 AM
I was lucky to have a billiards company nearby. They were not happy it was going in a basement.

billiardsforum on 11/17/2018 6:36:36 AM
More on the Fischer pool table disassembly here:

Disassembling a Fischer Pool Table

ignifork22 on 11/18/2018 6:32:34 AM
You couldn't turn my table over. 4 of us could not even budge a corner. We were not a group of weight lifters, but we are not little either.

hlthomas on 11/18/2018 11:06:25 AM
@ignifork22, I'm trying to figure out if the coin operated tables differ from drop pockets in taking it apart. Yours had to be flipped over, which is what those instructions posted say and trying to figure out if the drop pocket models have to be as well, or if the rails can just come off and the slate removed with it up right. But just hard to find anything.

Also what size is your table? This one is the smallest table, so the slate is 650 lb, so hoping we can move it without a company.

ignifork22 on 11/18/2018 4:29:52 PM
The company I hired to dismantle the pool table, Edison Billiards, started by removing side panels which let them loosen something else and popped the rails right off. The slate just rides on supports inside I assume.

The ball return system is like a super highway system inside, very cool. My table seems to have an extra add-on for the ball return system on the outside. It puts the ball return further away from the body ot the table. The money slot is in the middle, more so than other pool tables I have seen pictures of.

I finally took some pics of the table and I will post them very soon. It has been a very busy time around here.

My son-in-law got busted for cultivation. When there was no large stash of cash as they had expected, charges of child endangerment were added by a judge who is serving her final term. She wants to leave a legacy, so she drug my daughter into it. He got 5 years and she got 60 days home arrest. They also went after him for medicaid fraud (with no actual way to prove it). A fine of $144,000 dollars was tacked on. It is all in appeals court now. I have been enlisted to help in the child rearing (3 grandchildren) along with all other responsibilities. I do love those kids. Life is crazy sometimes. And so it goes.

Carolyn on 12/28/2018 11:30:46 AM
I am looking for info on a Fischer pool table I just purchased.

It doesn't have a model on it. It just says Fischer and has the serial number A49141.

Does it have a marble or slate bed? Is it comparable to the "bar room" pool tables of today?

Lakota77 on 7/27/2019 11:35:31 AM
I'm also looking for info and value of a Fischer pool table.

If anyone can help with any info on my post, I would appreciate it.

James Perkins on 11/11/2019 7:51:26 AM
I'm refinishing an old Fischer Regent bar box pool table.

I'm guessing it's from the 1960s but I don't know for sure. I'm glad to see other Fischer pool tables on here.

I know mine takes one quarter in the slot to drop the balls. I rebuilt the cabinet and replaced the crumbling particle board.

I've detailed the progress in another post - Fischer Regent Coin-Op Pool Table Restoration Project. It has lots of restoration photos of my Fischer pool table.

rbertothy on 11/30/2019 6:43:25 PM
I am looking for a service manual or installation manual for my Fischer Regent "One Hundred One" pool table.

If anyone has details, please do respond to my post.

Br1an on 4/18/2020 11:58:51 PM
Hey all I just purchased and moved a Empire VIII that predates the sale of Fischer in 1968, or at least the slate does. The manufacturer of the slates label was still on the bottom.

Mine is the 101 length (88x44 play field). It was owned by the same family for most of it's existence and hadn't been moved in over 15 years.

The rails come off easily by removing the V-shaped panels and loosening the 12 14mm bolts. The panels you have to slide one way and up find the edge and work the bottom out.

The slate is very heavy. My buddy and I managed to load it using dolly straps about 40 ft and into a moving van, but it took 5 of us to get it into the house with 3 stairs.

Leveling the table was super easy to feel free to ask any questions.

Next is to redo the rails (pretty sure mine are the original rubber) and recover in a nice worsted fabric.

Here are the photos of the stuff I've done so far:

All finished and installed:

The tag that was attached to the bottom of the slate:

This metal with the screw seems to be holding the rail to the frame of the pool table. I don't know. I am planning to re-felt and replace the rubber soon but I won't know until I get it apart

Table top flipped over after removing the 12 14mm bolts holding the rail frame to the table base:

Break end of the table I had to slide the inserts from left to right and up to get them out. They are not screwed in or attached in any way.

Frame bolts on the sides shown below. You don't have to remove the nut entirely just loosen enough to twist the metal clamp that hooks onto the table base.

The ends were a little different they have a small metal plate that twists out of the way:

View from the side with the inserts removed:

Pool table leg:

Clip that holds the table legs in place.

If you would like more I have some but these cover what I have done so far.

The pool table came apart pretty easily albeit a behemoth to lift as it has a 1-piece slate.

Cheers!

user1627307067 on 7/26/2021 6:44:28 AM
My Fischer Regent 91 pool table came with the house I recently purchased, and it sits on a concrete basement floor.

One corner is low, and my question is—can you adjust the round disc legs?

rbertothy on 7/26/2021 12:52:33 PM
Yes you can adjust the legs.

They should just unscrew to add height.

rbertothy on 11/14/2021 3:54:34 PM
Anyone need parts? Ive got a complete but dont have time to restore it.

user1642393764 on 1/16/2022 8:29:25 PM
I have a similar Fischer pool table:

Mine has a 6 digit serial number:

Here is a photo of the automatic ball return:

user1653455525 on 5/23/2022 7:22:35 PM
I am inheriting my Great Grandfather's marble-top Fischer Empire VII pool table that he purchased in February 1968 (he kept the receipt). I'm going to have to disassemble it to move it and don't really know what to expect or even what to ask at this point.

@Br1an - Your answer above is helpful and I'd love any advice you have to give and/or to be able to ask you questions when the time comes. I guess some of the things I'm wondering so far is:
1. If mine is a solid one-piece top like yours, how many people will it take to move it?
2. Will it need to be re-felted after assembly?
Again, any words of wisdom you (or anyone) have to offer on how to disassemble and reassemble a Fischer Empre VII pool table would be super appreciated.

Thanks!

markk0 on 7/8/2022 1:17:30 PM
My Fischer pool table has a manufacture date of 11/1972 stamped on the bottom of the slate with a serial number of 26901. It has had a lot of use. I bought it as surplus from a juvenile correction center. It has a 3/4” one-piece slate.

I’ve owned it for about 30 years, had it recovered once, and I’m in the process of having new rails installed and having it recovered again.

I’m also replacing the particle board aprons with poplar.

I’m excited to get it finished. I might post some pictures when it’s done.

billiardsforum on 8/23/2022 5:20:27 AM
@markk0 - I am particularly interested in seeing the particle board to hard wood conversion. Please do share some before and after photos when you're done!

user1669397228 on 11/25/2022 9:27:08 AM
I have a Fisher Empire VIII pool table.

Would anyone have a set of the seeds cover panels they would like to sell?

I love this pool table. It was bought brand new by my wife's family. They took the cover panels off the first time they had to take it apart to move and they have been lost through the years.

JRichter on 4/22/2024 12:28:34 PM
Oh wow!

I just purchased a Fischer Empire VIII pool table, and was wondering how to access the top and the slate.

I've been searching and searching for pictures, so this is exactly what I was needing.

Thanks!