Make, Model, and Value of 1970s Meucci Originals Cue

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5/9/2017 9:25:25 PM

Make, Model, and Value of 1970s Meucci Originals Cue

I just found this forum and wonder if anyone can help me identify my Meucci Model and potential value.

I've had it for multiple decades, but have no idea what it is specifically regarding model. The wood inlays are in good shape, but I can tell the butt & shaft need to be tuned up.

Any input would be appreciated.

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Make, Model, and Value of 1970s Meucci Originals Cue

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1. billiardsforum on 5/9/2017 9:43:29 PM

   I am looking into it for you.

   1. Did you get your Meucci cue from Cornhusker Billiard Supply by any chance?
   2. Do you know if the joint has been replaced at some point? Doesn't look like a standard Meucci joint - they didn't commonly use those stainless-steel joints.

   UPDATE:

   Scratch that second question - they did offer a "flat face metal joint" option in their first catalog and continued that option for some time.

   Your cue has the older-style rubber bumper (and it's rare to see them still in-tact and in such good shape, if it's the original).

   They did a MO-5 - and I believe that is what you have. BUT - not from the first series. That MO-5 looks completely different. There are also other lines with an MO-5 cue which is different still. Here are a few brochure photos showing what I think is your cue:

   

   

   Yours looks to be in amazing shape, and I don't see a lot of this particular cue around. They are generally regarded as very well playing, solid hitting cues. Sought after, in general. Now that you know the model number (with a certain degree of confidence), you can watch for other classifieds and auctions for Meucci MO-5 cues. Just make sure you are looking at this version of the MO-5 pool cue, and not one of the others.

2. joejfs on 5/9/2017 10:15:28 PM

   I don't actually know the real source of the cue. I worked in Recreation Center at Southeast Missouri State University in the mid 70's. Some guy who was an obvious hustler came in and practiced for hours and actually really taught me the game even though I played as far back as I can remember.

   He would come in with 10 to 15 cues for sale every once in a while.

   That's all I know. He was a good shooter, taught me many many things, and sold me the stick.

   I don't recall the joint of this stick being different from others that I could have selected. And I can't remember if he was only selling Meucci or if he had others. Thanks for digging into this.

3. billiardsforum on 5/9/2017 10:18:17 PM

   It's a great cue. Don't let it go for nothing without understanding the value. An older "originals" like yours that is in such amazing shape - you don't see them in this good a shape.

   I am still searching for something on valuation.

4. joejfs on 5/9/2017 10:21:19 PM

   Great information!

   Thank You very much,
   Joe

5. billiardsforum on 5/10/2017 5:24:13 AM

   Still have not found pricing data, but I am convinced you'd get between $500 and $800 for it, at least, depending on condition. From what I can see they are quite rare at this point based on the fact that I see very few of them out in the wild (relatively speaking, compared with others from this era). Really all I found were a few posts of folks looking for one, but none available for sale at all.

   I believe the first prototypes and earliest versions of the MO5 cue might have been made with "Wico" blanks (but I have been unable to confirm this) e.g. from Wico, a maker and wholesaler of pool cue parts and raw materials. Bob Meucci used to work at Wico before starting Meucci Originals and he made a lot of the "blanks" there which were used by a lot of big-name cue makers of the day.

   I did find 1 more just like yours, but with different colored veneers in the points. After extensive searching online at all of my usual sources, it's the first one besides yours that I've come across.

   

   

   Also, I forgot to mention that if you find out anything more about your cue through other sources, please keep me in the loop. As you can see I'm a bit of a cue fanatic :)

6. joejfs on 5/10/2017 7:46:17 AM

   Thanks again,

   You've provided great information and in amazing time-frame. I will certainly keep you in the loop.

   Now I'm scared to play with it. :)

   It's the only quality cue I've ever owned and has been sitting silently in case for decades. Now that I'm enjoying the game again I'm actually not sure I should be playing with it on a regular basis.

   Any suggestions on a "no frills" but quality case for protection would be appreciated.

   Also, in the image below, the chalk points to a slight ding that I can feel when shooting. Do you think I can use something like the "Dr. Cue Dent Buffer" or should I take it to someone that really knows what they are doing?

   Thank you so much for your info, this has been a great exchange!

   

7. billiardsforum on 5/10/2017 5:34:57 PM

   You are welcome; glad I could help.

   As for the case and dent questions, that's outside of my wheelhouse. But on the dent, if it were me, I wouldn't "do it myself" on this cue - but I am in no way a cue repair guy.

   Maybe others will chime in.

8. Mayo on 5/19/2017 10:41:11 PM

   It's definitely a Meucci MO-5 cue.

   I wouldn't sell it for less than $800 if I were you. I have one just like it, although your joint is different. I believe it was probably one of the last MO-5 cues Bob made. They may have offered that joint as an option from the factory, but I believe it was replaced at some point.

   I would ONLY send it to Scott Erwin, or Proficient Billiards for a refinish. I highly recommend Scott Erwin.

   Here is what your cue looked like in the original brochure.

   

9. billiardsforum on 5/22/2017 3:48:04 PM

   In the first Meucci Originals brochure, the inside of the last page listed and pictured the three joint options available. All were flat-faced joints, and the options were:

   • Flat Face Implex Joint
   • Flat Face Wood Joint
   • Flat Face Metal Joint

   Here is a photo of the page:

   

10. Mayo on 9/1/2017 10:39:55 PM

    Here's mine after a complete overhaul by Scott Erwin. I should be getting it back sometime next week. Can't wait.

    

    Here's a picture taken before I sent it to Scott

    

    ....and after.

    My cue was sent along with 2 of my buddy's Meucci MO-5's (he has 3 believe it or not). I'll try to remember to post pics of his when I get them.

    

11. billiardsforum on 9/4/2017 4:36:26 PM

    @Mayo - My god that looks amazing. Scott's work never ceases to amaze me.

    Would you mind me asking, how much does it cost to have a Meucci cue restored like this one?

    Thanks for sharing.

12. Mayo on 9/11/2017 1:52:20 AM

    I probably got a great deal because my friend sent it along with 4 or 5 of his originals, and he sends Scott at least 10+ a year....It cost me 160 for a new butt cap, ferrule, tip, replacement of the entire collar (cracks), shaft turned, and 3 layers of clear coat.

    Black rings on the shaft and but were both cracked as well.

    

    Off topic but do you know of anyone who owns the entire mo series? The same friend recently acquired an mo-7, and the only mo-9 that we're aware of that exists to complete the entire set (not quite all the different "stages" though).

    I took this about 6 months ago...His collection has almost doubled since then...Original mo-5 is top row 7th from the left.

    

    Pretty sure bottom row 2nd from right is his mo-5 like mine and the op. The butt cap was "fixed" by someone who didn't know what they were doing 20 years ago. It was cracked at the top, but original owner didn't want to lose the "Meucci Original" logo. Scott has it now.

13. billiardsforum on 9/11/2017 4:43:27 AM

    Is your friend Mr. Walker? I actually met him recently on a Facebook group and have chatted with him in some detail about his incredible collection. Good guy.

    

    Regarding the MO-9, I think there were a couple made (but can't verify that for sure). There was one on eBay in July 2017, and the asking price was about $6000. The listing was taken down before it closed, so I would guess he sold it privately. Wonder if this was the one he acquired? This one was apparently bought directly from Meucci in 1976. Owner was a professional engraver, as you can see below. He did the engraving:

    

    

    

14. Mayo on 9/12/2017 11:50:55 PM

    You're spot on....Here are a few screenshots from a video I took of the butt a couple months ago.

    I would post the video if the site allowed. The cue actually looks better in person.

    

    

    

    The engraver did an amazing job

    

    Here is the video:

    _{Source: streamable.com/7vltw}

15. billiardsforum on 9/13/2017 12:06:32 AM

    That's amazing. The original owner probably had no idea it would become one of the more rare Meucci Originals when he bought it.

    Video is possible, you just upload to YouTube, and then simply paste the video URL into your post here. It will show up automatically when you submit.

16. Mayo on 9/13/2017 12:52:00 AM

    Here you go

    Source: streamable.com/7vltw

17. user1515694153 on 1/11/2018 1:09:14 PM

    OK, where do I find this guys contact info?!

18. Mayo on 1/11/2018 7:47:49 PM

    Contact info for the original poster or for the guy who owns the Meucci MO-9?

    The only way to buy the Meucci MO-9 would be to buy his entire MO Series collection, which would take a truckload of money.

19. MeucciMO9 on 2/9/2020 3:12:04 PM

    I have a Meucci Originals MO-9 cue and will sell it for $6000.

Make, Model, and Value of 1970s Meucci Originals Cue

• Title: Make, Model, and Value of 1970s Meucci Originals Cue
• Author: joejfs
• Published: 5/9/2017 9:25:25 PM
• Last Updated: 5/9/2017 10:50:12 PM
• Last Updated By: billiardsforum (Billiards Forum)