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Info on Peter Vitalie Co. Pool Cue

4/13/2022 3:56:50 PM

Info on Peter Vitalie Co. Pool Cue

Does anyone have any information on Vitalie pool cues?

I have a cue that says "Peter Vitalie Co." on the bottom with a falcon symbol.

The cue is of very good quality and I was wondering whether there are more like this out there? Is it a re-brand and perhaps made by another cue manufacturer?

I have had it since about 1998-ish. Any info would be great if there is any out there. Thanks!

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Info on Peter Vitalie Co. Pool Cue

Replies & Comments
  1. kress77poolmaniac on 4/14/2022 8:41:40 AM

    I don’t have that make of cue, however, I have some cues similar to yours that I too can’t find any information on.

    I believe there was a real run on cue makers for these production cues, using good solid material, joint connectors, wraps, and wood for a good solid hitting cue. But most are with overlays vs. inlays, so value-wise these cues have a limited market of $100, give-or-take, depending on condition.

    I have some nice ones with overlays that look great, but they are overlays. I just posted one of those cues with a stingray logo to try to see if anyone could identify.

    Good luck!

  2. kress77kress77 on 4/14/2022 12:37:01 PM

    Thanks for the response!

    I talked to someone from Classic Billiards and he said it was a Peter Vitalie cue. He had one too, but he couldn't find any info on them since they closed down around 2011 I believe.

    If it was made by Falcon cues, he said it might be worth about $400. I wish there was more info on it, as it's a nice cue and plays well.

    I'd definitely try Classic Billiards as they might be able to identify your cue. I talked to Mark and he's a good dude. Maybe you will get some info on your cue!

  3. kress77poolmaniac on 4/14/2022 5:40:19 PM

    Thanks for the lead. I will call Classic Billiards. It so happens that I was on their website today. but didn’t inquire.

  4. kress77billiardsforum on 5/5/2022 4:41:32 AM

    Thanks for sharing the photos of the Vitalie pool cue. I've not seen one like that before.

    I don't have much else to add other than a few anecdotal notes. Take them for what they're worth—me just thinking out loud and doing a brain dump of things that might be related or point someone in the right direction.

    • The "falcon" on that cue is markedly different from the falcon design used in the Falcon cue logo, so I wouldn't assume a link to Falcon Cue (as the manufacturer) based on that. The falcon on that cue logo is part of the same Peter Vitalie Co. logo used on some of their pool tables and other marketing materials, so it's not specific to the cues.
    • Nick Varner was a director of the Peter Vitalie Co. and he had ties with Falcon Cues for a time in the very late 1980s and early 1990s, and also with Dan Janes of Joss Cues and other big cue manufacturers. There might be a link there. It might be worth asking Nick. I'll reach out on the off chance that he might know and respond. He has had his own line(s) of pool cues from various manufactures over the years (and still to this day). I would say that it's very likely he would know the details of who produced Vitalie pool cues (and was likely involved in the decision).
    • I have an image of an original invoice for a Peter Vitalie pool table purchased with accessories including pool cues. It indicates that the cues are made in Canada. However, I think the cues sold with the table were in the style of house cues that were common from Dufferin (when it was it's own company based in Canada). There's a good chance that Dufferin made house cues for Vitalie to sell with their pool tables, but I can say that yours definitely isn't from Dufferin. I'm just noting that since some might make the Canada-Falcon connection when it was probably Dufferin supplying a different line of cues for Vitalie at a different time from when your cue was made and sold.

    • Also owned by the Peter Vitalie Co. was a division called "Sterling Billiard Company, Inc.". In a company description, it said:

      The Vitalie branded pool tables are "furniture [-style] high class tables" where as the Sterling branded pool tables are commercial types used in billiard parlors.

      Not sure if that had anything to do with this line of Vitalie cues. Some of their pool tables had a name plate that said "Sterling a Division of Peter Vitalie Co.".

    It is certainly worth having a look through some cue sport magazines from the 1985-1995 era to see if there are any Vitalie advertisements showing the cues, etc.

    I'll continue to keep my eyes peeled and will post here if anything further turns up. Do let us know if you find anything further, and we'll do the same.

  5. kress77kress77 on 5/5/2022 5:07:37 AM

    Thanks for the info! Very interesting. I didn't know the Nick Varner part.

  6. kress77billiardsforum on 5/17/2022 5:37:08 PM

    I just heard back from Nick Varner, and he confirmed that they were made by Falcon Cues.

    Mystery solved!

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  7. kress77kress77 on 5/17/2022 6:49:29 PM

    That's awesome! Thanks so much!

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Info on Peter Vitalie Co. Pool Cue

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