Value of a Helmstetter 86-13 Pool Cue

2/17/2025 12:22:27 PM

Value of a Helmstetter 86-13 Pool Cue

What is the value of a Helmstetter 86-13 cue?

I probably wouldn't sell it but I'd like to know it's value.

So, does anyone know how much my Helmstetter 86-13 pool cue is worth?

Mikewow02

Value of a Helmstetter 86-13 Pool Cue

Replies & Comments

billiardsforum on 2/17/2025 1:04:15 PM
This is a tough one, because you don't see a lot of this model around.

All I can do is point you to two eBay listings (both of which never sold at those prices).

I believe both listings are actually for the same exact cue because both listings have the same identical photos, even though they are from different eBay seller usernames.

The fact that it they both didn't sell would tell you the value is somewhere less than what these two were priced at.

I personally feel that they're both priced over double what the cue is worth.

Listing #1:
Old Adam Cue Helmstetter 86-13 4 Point Design 80s Rare with Joint Caps
- Seller: kths_0716
- Location: Fukuoka ken kasuga si, Japan
- Price: US $833.00 or Best Offer
- Date: January 2025
Description:

Old Adam Cue Helmstetter 86-13 with Joint Protectors

Features:
- Brand: Adam.
- Model: Helmstetter 86-13.
- Era: 1980s.
- Design: 4-point design with lizard leather handle.
- Weight:
- Butt: Approx. 15.3 oz (433g), adjustable with weight bolts.
- Shaft: Approx. 4.1 oz (117g).
- Joint: 18-thread flat joint.
Condition:
- Pre-owned and well-maintained for its vintage.
- No significant warping; rolls smoothly with slight unevenness due to the lizard pattern.
- Genuine lizard leather handle shows minor scratches.
- Lacquer remains clear with no yellowing.
- Includes joint protectors for both ends.
Additional Notes:

A rare piece from the 1980s, perfect for collectors or players seeking a high-quality vintage cue. Please refer to the photos for detailed condition and specifications.
Listing #1:
OOLD ADAM CUE 80's Helmstetter 86-13 Billiard Cue Rare Used From Japan
- Seller: umaibo75
- Location: Japan
- Price: US $1,042.22 or Best Offer
- Date: January 2025
Description:

We handle genuine Japanese products.

Please check photo and feel free to contact us for more details.

Adam Helmstetter 80' 86-13, rare one.

Beautiful one with no yellowing of the varnish considering its age.
- Butt: approx. 433g (18 pcs.) Weight bolt adjustable
- Shaft: approx. 117g
Joint protector is included.

Handle: leather

There is no warping to interfere, but the leather pattern rolls slowly.
Photos from both listings (same photos were found on both):