How Much is a "Palmer Billiards" Pool Cue Worth?
9/24/2019 9:00:53 PM
How Much is a "Palmer Billiards" Pool Cue Worth?
How much is this Palmer cue worth?
Does this "Palmer Billiards" cue have any value?
How Much is a "Palmer Billiards" Pool Cue Worth?
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- Type79 on 9/25/2019 4:51:57 AM
These have value as a player or to someone who happens to like the design and appearance. Generally, I see them change hands for under $100, more specifically $75 or so. I would list it on eBay and see what happens.
For anyone curious, these Palmer Billiards cues bear no relationship to those from the Palmer Custom Cue Co in Elizabeth NJ. They were made in Taiwan in the nineties after Palmer closed their shop and sold their rights to the name.
- user1547439908 on 9/25/2019 7:40:02 AM
I'm just making sure. It's in a pawn shop and they think its worth hundreds of dollars. Many thanks!
- Chopdoc on 9/25/2019 8:00:07 AM
By the way, I believe earlier this summer the Palmer trademark was up for grabs internationally. Apparently it wasn't renewed.
Indeed these cues have no relationship to Palmer Custom Cue Co in Elizabeth NJ. What is interesting is that they never seemed to make any effort to even resemble Palmer cues, they just slapped the name on and rode that name recognition. Probably worked to some extent and still seems to.
Nobody tried to do what was done with the Balabushka name. Better quality tribute cues that used the original design elements. I have occasionally wondered why. Some are offended by such things, but I think it would have been better than all these cheaper lower quality Asian cues carrying the name.
The name does sometime boost the value of these used cues and occasionally a nice one sells for a little more than typical on Ebay. Once in a great while on Ebay you'll see two identical used Asian cues for sale from two different sellers, one with the Palmer name, one without any name. The Palmer will sell for more. In fact, sometimes people claim the unlabeled cues are Palmer just to try to attract higher bids.
- Type79 on 9/25/2019 8:25:00 AM
Interesting that you touch upon the observation that no one has put forth an effort to make what some might call continuation cues.
It actually could be done quite easily as evidenced by the fact that over the years some very respected cuemakers have produced first quality tribute cues, specifically of the Models J and 20.
I have always believed that it is because of the general lack of interest in vintage style cues utliliizing ring configurations typical of most Palmers and Paradises.
Many cuemakers make what is popularly referred to as "Bushka-style" cues but there has been no observable demand for cuemakers to produce cues with multiple plastic and nickel silver rings.
It could be argued that those interested in such cues can satisfy their desire by purchasing a true Palmer of which there are many.
The attached picture includes a Model 20 cue which I had made by Paul Drexler of PFD Studios, second from right.
- Chopdoc on 9/25/2019 8:49:04 AM
Beautiful tribute cue by Drexler.
Yes, the style elements are perhaps too stuck in the era of shag carpeting, maybe less timeless than some of the Bushka designs that carry on in the Asian copies and often used by custom makers still today.
But look at Viking. They are still making it work (re-opened after closing for a while). They used lots of pearlized plastic rings, inlays, points, etc, and even still do so today. Sure, some don't like that, but they are still in business and still doing it... and on some not-so-cheap cues too.
There is truth in what you say for sure. But I do still wonder. And I do think it would be very cool to see someone do it... better than those Asian "Palmer" cues we see all the time.
Maybe a limited model series run? Numbered cues? Kind of like the numbered cues Joss did years ago for Brunswick that came in the beautiful piano-black box. I think they were Willie Hoppe tributes IIRC.
Maybe just mental masturbation, but I like the idea.
- billiardsforum on 9/25/2019 1:05:16 PM
The Palmer cue in the original question is from sometime in the early 2000s (likely between 2001 and 2004).
The model is the Palmer BQ-597B cue, from the BQ-590 series.
From the brochure:
I second Jay's original answer on value.
- Chopdoc on 9/25/2019 1:54:24 PM
How do you find all those old obscure models? LOL!
Amazing. Well done!
I agree, Jay is right about the value if I hadn't said so directly.
How Much is a "Palmer Billiards" Pool Cue Worth?
- Title: How Much is a "Palmer Billiards" Pool Cue Worth?
- Author: user1547439908
- Published: 9/24/2019 9:00:53 PM
- Last Updated: 9/25/2019 4:16:45 AM
- Last Updated By: billiardsforum (Billiards Forum)