Blue Book Value of 1st Series Adam AH-10 Cue?
10/12/2018 3:50:16 PM
Blue Book Value of 1st Series Adam AH-10 Cue?
I have a Adam AH-10 "Ritz" 1st edition cue. Both the butt and shaft are 100% straight.
What is the Blue Book value of an original Adam AH-10 cue in excellent condition?
Blue Book Value of 1st Series Adam AH-10 Cue?
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Chopdoc on 10/14/2018 8:48:33 PMNice cue.
No such thing as "book value" on cues.
Cue looks modified at the butt end, otherwise fair condition. How straight it is will have something to do with the value.
Hard to say. Value anywhere from $200 - $450 would be the thinking range. More likely lower than higher.
It ain't the Mona Lisa or a Gus.
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RUSTY on 10/14/2018 9:24:01 PMI meant the Blue Book of Cues.
The cue rolls true, both the butt and shaft. It has the Adam logo on the other side. The owner of this cue bought this brand new. The bottom is just a homemade extension to add 1 and a half inches to the length. It comes off.
Some of these cues were full splice and some were not. I'm sure you are aware of that. :)
I really never had much interest in Adam cues. They looked pretty but for a while they were hit and miss as far as quality in the early days.
I was just was trying to get an idea as there is one on eBay with 2 shafts for $575.00. 1 of the shafts is a Schon and the other is the original.
It would be a pretty cue restored.
billiardsforum on 10/15/2018 3:34:03 AM3rd edition of the Blue Book of Cues lists at $130 (70% condition) to $265 (perfect condition), but those prices are pretty much meaningless today.
- RUSTY on 10/15/2018 4:13:52 AM
Thank you for your response. These cues or any cue on the secondary market are really more of what someone will pay or is willing to pay 'depending on how bad they truly want it in their possession or collection.
I see beautiful Tad cues for example at $12K - $15K. Are they beautiful? Indeed. Would I ever pay that amount? Absolutely not. LOL. But they are works of art for sure. Just don't use them for what they are intended for.
user1539618779 on 10/15/2018 8:53:00 AM
Not sure why OP posted this as his own, but this pool cue is in a live auction at ShopGoodwill.com
You can view the listing here.
shopgoodwill.com/Item/58640220
Matt
E-commerce Manager- RUSTY on 10/15/2018 10:58:15 AM
@E-commerce Manager Matt - I never once said or suggested it was my cue. I was just looking for a value of this cue (which the sale has clearly exceeded on your site).
It does seem though as we have a mole in the house, which bothers me as this means there is a snitch, which will hurt re-sellers.
Have a good day and good luck with your sale as whomever buys it will never get that kind of money out of it.
- billiardsforum on 10/15/2018 1:41:50 PM
There are loads of stores online about shill bids on stuff at shopgoodwill.com (fake bids by both internal employees and external fake accounts.
When you look at the bid history on this cue it is very suspicious that none of the bids are from the same user. Look at any eBay item with more than a few bids and you'll see that it goes back and forth between the same couple of users.
The price that cue is at currently is 3x market.
Doesn't smell right to me.
- RUSTY on 10/15/2018 1:50:49 PM
Yes there are never 2 of the same bidders on that site or it is very rare to say the least.
I also checked on a Joss cue using the serial number they listed. Joss told me the cue was sold for $330 brand new and the bidding is already at over $200 just 2 days into the auction. It's a plain-jane Joss cue. With an unknown cue I'd say re-sale would be right around $300 tops in this market even though the Joss is weeks out.
- Chopdoc on 10/15/2018 6:42:29 PM
Many saw that listing.
I was contacted by four people directly before this post regarding the identity and value of the cue..
Then after this post one more contacted me. He was asking me why the bidding went so high, if there was something about the cue he didn't know.
Most of the cues I bid on are obscure and people don't even know what they are. I am not a bidder on this. Passed it right up as I figured it would go too high with so many contacting me about it.
From what I have seen, it will likely be relisted. When they go unrealistically high it does not get bought and gets relisted. Usually.
balnerfan on 11/16/2018 4:36:02 PM
Do you guys think Goodwill is really using shill bidders?
I'm thinking back, and recently there seems to have been a run upper echelon pool cues. Richard Black, Joss etc. and it has me wondering if these are donated as their mission statement claims, or purchased and then placed in the auction.
I'm a retired player, and have gotten into collecting other things. Six months ago, they had a rare piece I needed for one of my collections, which I bought. Since then, the number of hard-to-find, or rare items of that type has skyrocketed. It makes me wonder.
And as you no-doubt already know, we who have played do not like being hustled.
- Chopdoc on 11/17/2018 1:32:54 PM
Anything is possible. I just don't generally get into all that. If the price is too high, I don't buy. Simple.
Some people seem to see scams everywhere.
I have been watching Goodwill for a long time, I haven't seen the skyrocket you are talking about. It's always been kind of sporadic. Now that more are watching it the prices get higher. Now that the sellers are learning a thing or two, they are listing better.
My comment was directed at the sheer number of upper-end items, pool cues as an example, which are now appearing weekly. Like you, I too have been watching Goodwill- 10+ yrs for me. And while I know that all businesses evolve, or should, I had believed that Goodwill was an "above board" organization, and didn't need mislead folks with slick wording and the like.
Now, however, I'm questioning that, and here's why.
The "handling charge", as well as exorbitant shipping charges for pool cues, etc. I bought a cue, shipping was FedEx, and very expensive. I checked USPS and UPS; way cheaper. Then I called FedEx, who told me the price was $8 cheaper than Goodwill's shipping calculator had figured for it. Called them, they said buy it or don't, essentially. I blew it off as a one-time thing, until yesterday.
Like you, I'm not much of a conspiracy-type person. After reading those posts, I did some research. Seems to be some agreement. There's a fishy smell.
Blue Book Value of 1st Series Adam AH-10 Cue?
- Title: Blue Book Value of 1st Series Adam AH-10 Cue?
- Author: RUSTY (Tim Linn)
- Published: 10/12/2018 3:50:16 PM
- Last Updated: 10/15/2018 3:37:56 AM
- Last Updated By: billiardsforum (Billiards Forum)
