Looking for a perfect "masse" tip
9/9/2012 2:25:18 AM
Looking for a perfect "masse" tip
Hi , I came upon 2 great cues for masse - 90cm long and very heavy ( i think around the 20oz ). one is 11mm tip and other is 13mm. I need now a perfect tip. I tried using a tip made of hard rubber ( inside of tennis ball) with no avail. what do you suggest?
Looking for a perfect "masse" tip
Replies & Comments
- Fenwick on 9/9/2012 8:40:29 AM
I use the tip on my playing cue. Never heard of a special tip for a Masse' shot.
Below is a link showing how to make a proper Masse' shot, one of many. I sure you already know how.
- Mitch Alsup on 9/9/2012 9:09:17 AM
There are several kinds of Massé shots, the more exotic require nothing harder than a medium tip (that you will be maintaining daily, and replacing regularly), the more gentle Massé shots can be performed with any play tip you like.
The exotic shots (like up and back without touching a rail) require lots and lots of spin. Since this shot is performed with a stroke into the bed of the table, the table and cloth holds the CB in place while the tip delivers massive spin (and burns a spot in the cloth.) In addition to the tip requirements, the CB will like to be polished regularly, and if you want some real action, after a polish session, wipe it down with WD40 and let it sit overnight to degass.
Unlike a jump cue (which favors lightness) the Massé cue likes to be nose heavy with a stiff shaft, so brass ferrules and straight tapers abound. Generally speaking a real Massé cue is 23-24 oz, although performing cues can be as heavy as 27 oz. Massé cues for big curve shots want a bit more flex in the shaft than those for straight up and back shots. 13-14mm tips are generally used.
Find a 2"*2" piece of billiards cloth to practice Massés and jumps to avoid burning spots in the cloth. Place it under the CB before you shoot (also works for break shots).
- soundmun on 9/9/2012 3:35:01 PM
First of all I want to say that I can do a masse shot with the regular tip but it involves much force, speed and concentration and still i get many miscues, and ofcourse there is always in my mind damaging the cloth. As I guess you know a great masse "shot" is when you do it with your hand in a kong fu like stroke ( I wouldnt imagine doing that with my bear fist,which resambles more to the hard tip ...ouch...) . this makes me think that i need something softer .
- Fenwick on 9/10/2012 5:41:01 AM
If you want soft here's a few.
- Kamui Black (Super Soft)
- Da Vinci (Soft)
- Black Heart (Soft)
- Kamui Black (Soft)
- Moori (Soft)
- Hirano (Soft)
- Tiger Laminated (Soft)
- Kamui II (Soft)
- Talisman Pro (Soft)
Looking for a perfect "masse" tip
- Title: Looking for a perfect "masse" tip
- Author: soundmun
- Published: 9/9/2012 2:25:18 AM