Is This an Abe Rich Custom Cue?
3/1/2014 10:04:54 AM
Is This an Abe Rich Custom Cue?
I am trying to find the make of this pool cue which my father's most treasured cue.
I know it's from the late 1960s or early 1970s but have almost no information besides that.
I assembled it and it rolls smooth and has no warping at all.
It has to be of a pretty good make as all the materials are higher end (e.g. mahogany wood, brass fittings, linen wrap, ivory caps maybe, and a wood tip).
I looked all over it for ANY kinda of stamp or letter or number, but found nothing. I read guides on how to identify a pool cue, and came up with nothing.
Is it a custom pool cue then? If so, do you have any idea of who made cues in that style in the late 1960s and maybe up to the mid 1970s?
Any and all info that you can impart upon me would be GREATLY appreciated. I might be a seller. I might not. I really just want more information at this point and I figured where better to ask than here?
Is This an Abe Rich Custom Cue?
Replies & Comments
- BilliardsBill on 3/1/2014 12:46:11 PM
I'm not an expert on his work, but it sure looks like an Abe Rich cue. He favored "merry widow" style forearms like this one has and the rings on the butt look exactly like something Abe would have used.
His cues, in good condition like this one (if this is one) can be worth several hundred to several thousand dollars. Of course, a cue is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
If this was treasured by your father, you might want to keep it for something to help remember him by.
By the way, if this is an Abe Rich cue, the wood used could very well be Brazilian Rosewood which I understand was a favorite of Abe's for his custom pool cues. And if is Brazilian Rosewood, you should know that Brazilian Rosewood is usually considered the best wood to use when making a cue. It is also difficult to get nowadays.
You should really try to find someone who knows cues of this era to tell you what this cue is made of and who actually made it. Preferably someone who can examine the actual cue rather than just pictures.
It looks to be a very nice cue and if it is what I think it is, then you not only have a sentimental treasure, but also a cue made by a highly regarded cuemaker who passed away about eight or nine years ago, so there won't be any more of these made.
- AdamKralic on 3/1/2014 1:21:11 PM
Thanks for the input. I'm not sure where I'd be able to get the cue inspected or appraised. I guess I can google local pool cue collectors? I'll try.
Good call on the Brazilian Rosewood. The grain isn't as straight as I've seen on most mahogany cues but has similar color. You could very well be right.
- BilliardsBill on 3/1/2014 2:47:05 PM
If you want some more input on who possibly made the cue, but you can't find someone to take it to, you should post pictures of it on AZ Billiards. There are a lot of people there who know a lot more than I do. They will want to see close up pictures of the joint and might want you to take the bumper off of the butt end and take pictures of that as well as the pictures you have posted here. It's worth a try.
- guest on 10/23/2015 9:44:54 AM
I have a pool cue which looks to be the exact same cue with a difference of color order on the rings. Did you ever find out what brand or make you cue was, or how much it is initially worth?
- acedonkeyace on 12/24/2016 3:55:01 PM
The cue you have is a Late 1970's to 1980's, Adams Cue from Richard Helmstetters setup in Japan. These are great cues and good shooters. Not a lot of money but a cue that shot well. If you have a 3rd Edition of Pool Cue values, this cue is listed in the book.
Take care and hope this helps,
Mike 'acedonkeyace' Kennedy
The CueMan--Kennedys Billiard ProShop and Repairs Largo, Florida
- user1491526886 on 4/6/2017 9:01:12 PM
It's an Adams and the cue. Specifically, it is called the Adams "Americana" pool cue.
- Mark Bellamy on 9/1/2017 5:09:40 PM
How much do you want for the Adams Americana cue? I pay cash or PayPal.
- user1529460130 on 6/19/2018 10:02:11 PM
FYI - I'm looking to buy an original Abe Rich pool cue.
My best to you,
Ronnie
Is This an Abe Rich Custom Cue?
- Title: Is This an Abe Rich Custom Cue?
- Author: AdamKralic (Adam Kralic)
- Published: 3/1/2014 10:04:54 AM