Cue Id Help Needed

9/20/2019 5:24:07 PM

Cue Id Help Needed

Would anyone care to offer any opinions on what this cue might be?

21 ounces
58" in length
Stainless steel joint
5/16-18 joint pin

It appears to be a well-made cue. It is straight and despite the weight, plays quite well.

The wrap is actually a white with blue speck linen which, in my opinion, is out-of-place on this cue. For that reason it might not be original to the cue, although considering how soiled it is, it has probably been on the cue for some time.

Any help or opinions would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Jay

Type79

Cue Id Help Needed

Replies & Comments

Chopdoc on 9/21/2019 7:47:50 AM
I for one have absolutely no idea. LOL!

It does look well made as you say... and very anonymous features.

There is blue spec wrap on it. Out of place? Yup.

billiardsforum on 9/26/2019 4:24:15 AM
It's a nice looking cue.

Do you know it's history at all? Specifically, where it's original owner was located e.g. What state? What city?

I've noticed, to some degree, that cues from a local cue-maker tend to be found concentrated in-and-around the area where the cue was made.

Sometimes knowing the location of the original owner has given a starting point to dig deeper, and I've had a bit of success starting research that way.

Otherwise, nothing stands out to me as an identifying feature and nothing comes to mind.

Except... that I will use this post as a great example on how to take good photos of your cues for identification!

Type79 on 9/26/2019 6:40:35 AM
Thanks for your comments. All of your observations and suggestions are valid. I asked a handful of experienced cue dealers for opinions and no one has any (lol) other than comments that it appears to be a well made cue.

Last night I sent-off pics and info to a friend in Japan who at one time worked at Adam, in th ehope that he may have a clue.

I believe the specs determine the era and am hoping the pin size and white collars provide some direction in determining the maker. On the one hand it could be the product of someone like Helmstetter and on the other, as you suggest, someone local. It also could be a cue made by someone like Adam for a reseller. Adam made cues that were marketd by others under various names, such as National.

I have scoured the Blue Books for clues but so far have come-up with nothing.

The cue provides almost no clues to it's originality. For example, the finish does not appear recent but It could be refinished which could have removed a signature if there was one. Just as possible is the fact that a decal containing a logo was once located on the butt cap and became worn and was removed. I wouldn't be surprised if the wrap is not original. It was soiled to the point that it obviously was on the cue for some time but the fact it is white with blue specks (an odd color on a very brown cue) makes me suspect that it was not installed by the maker.

The cue needs a ferrule and a tip and is a nice player despite it's weight.

Hopefully I will have more to report in the future.

Cue Id Help Needed

Title: Cue Id Help Needed
Author: Type79 (Jay Fishbein)
Published: 9/20/2019 5:24:07 PM
Last Updated: 9/26/2019 4:31:14 AM
Last Updated By: billiardsforum (Billiards Forum)