Joss vs. Viking
1/25/2009 3:36:01 PM
Joss vs. Viking
Im buying a new stick here pretty soon, so i'm doing a bit of research. I was asking about cues the other day at the pool hall, and the guy said that my older viking will spin the ball better than a Joss? that seems quite strange to me, but I have never used a Joss before. I have an older Viking that I've had for ten years, and I love it, but as things go, I want a new stick. I have looked at all the brands, and have several in mind. I would like a little softer hit than my Viking, but I don't want it too soft. I like the Joss, Pechauer, and some McDermotts. Unfortunatly, there are no good cue dealers around here where I can try these out. I know, I know, thats the best way, but I don't have that luxury. I am not asking you to tell me what I want, I am asking for your opinions on the hit and control of these cues, and maybe how they compare to each other. Thanx for any help.
Joss vs. Viking
Replies & Comments
snipershot on 1/27/2009 3:35:12 AM
dont be scared now, im just wanting an opinion, not a stone fact. how about Perchauer or Meucci? Anyone have an opinion on these? Do they have a soft hit? firm hit? hard hit? lots of power? lots of control? shoot those opinions out there folks.
Fenwick on 2/1/2009 1:39:31 PM
It's hard to recommend one cue over another. What feels good to me may feel terrible for you. Might explain the lack of replies. I bought a Viking without a test ride and adapted to it. I hit a few with a Schon last year and thought the balance was great. A few days ago I hit a few with it again and did not like the feel after playing with my cue for so long. It's what I'm used to now. A few players I know are using the cues they bought in the mid 1970's and the run rack after racks. If it isn't broke don't fix it! "I was asking about cues the other day at the pool hall, and the guy said that my older Viking will spin the ball better than a Joss?" That makes no sense to me either.
guest on 2/13/2009 6:42:45 PM
It all depends how much you want to spend. If you spend about $400 plus, the sticks are about the same, your paying more for looks. I have owned over 20 cues the last 30 years, some junk and about 5 over $600, one $1000. What I have found is build quality differs brand to brand, going custom is expensive but you get a nice cue. I would suggest going with a company that produces less cues per year, like a pechauer compared to a McDermit, you can't believe the workmanship and details of a pechauer vs Mcdermit that are the same price point. One cue maker doesn't spin better than the other, it depends more on the player, say like 90% player 10% stick, I can spin the heck with a bar stick but not as consistant.
The money is in the shaft, pechauer has their own forest, kiln and cutting saws on site, they reject more shafts then send them to other cue makers, and the hit is crisp. Don't worry about the new super shafts, not worth the money and a large % get returned due to breakage, you won't get a better shaft than pechauer( I have 3 shafts each for my 3 pechauers, my newest one is a PR20).
Now if you want to spend a bunch less, look into the poison vx2.9 play cue, about $169 from seyberts.com(best place to go, talk to Rick). Poison is owned by predator, I have the vx jump/break cue(best j/b cue out there IMO, anyone can jump with this) and the vx play cue, which I had to get after using the other cue, the rubber grip and wieght of this cue is addicting, I play with it more than my cues 4x the price, and its nice to have when you play somewhere you don't want something to happen to your nicer cues.
Good luck, the perfect cue is the one you like to shoot with:)
patrickp123495 on 2/16/2009 2:07:42 AMIt depends.What kind of joss do you want.Have you tried putting a predator shaft? From the feedback i heard joss cues have a stiff hit. WARNING: i may be wrong. :)
Joss vs. Viking
- Title: Joss vs. Viking
- Author: snipershot
- Published: 1/25/2009 3:36:01 PM
